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This photograph of Melanie Calvert Mathieu, and Maximin Giraud, was taken in 1847, the first anniversary of the apparition. September 19th 1846.

Why there were Two versions of the Secret of La Salette.

Melanie released two versions of her Secret and this caused a level confusion that affected the longer version of her Secret when it was released. The reasons for there being two versions of Melanie's Secret are shown here.

see in context in the Questions and Answers section on the Home Page.

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Q.15 Just going back to Melanie's Secret. The Church focused on
the parts of the Secret that referred specifically to the Church
Herself, there was also the difficulty that there were two versions of
Melanie's Secret. Can you tell us why there were two versions and
about the confusion this caused?

A. Yes, the apparition was of itself very formal. And given in the way
that one might expect of an Old Testament prophet. And some, and
for obvious and clear reasons, found it difficult to accept. It was highly
controversial. But it should be made clear that the Church did approve
the apparition at La Salette as being an apparition of the Blessed Virgin
Mary. But as concerns the Secret, the Church needed to focus on the
parts that accord with the Apocalypse. But Melanie stated that during
apparition, at the time of receiving the Secret, that she was told not to
disclose it until 1858.

Q16. Did the local Bishop carry out the investigation straight away?

A. Yes, he began the investigations within weeks. The theological
commission investigated and answered all questions and objections,
and was in place for two years. The Bishop's favourable conclusions
were then sent to Pope Pius IX, who responded asking Bishop de
Bruillard to build a beautiful church at La Salette.

His favourable conclusions meaning that the
apparition would be formally declared worthy of belief.

Q.17 Did the Bishop make the announcement straight away?

A. He was just about to when the Metropolitan Cardinal, who had,
in effect, come to be a focus for the clergy who were not comfortable
about the apparition, stepped in to say that the announcement should
not be made without the contents of the Secret having been made
known to the Church. And, technically, the Cardinal had a valid point.

Q.18 Did this cause a dilemma for the Bishop?

A. The Bishop would not have put himself at odds with the Cardinal.
But with Melanie stating that she had been told not to release the secret
until 1858, and it was then 1848. Ten years to wait.

It was all very curious. And many pilgrims were flocking to La Salette,
which had its own spring of healing water, and soon with some canonically
approved miracles. One hundred thousand pilgrims are said to have been
at the sight of the apparition for the first anniversary.

Q.19 What did Melanie do?

A. After three years she wrote a short and general version of the
Secret, to be made known only to the Pope. This was sent to Pope
Pius IX and, within three months, Bishop de Bruillard had made the
announcement giving formal approval.

Q.20 What happened next?

A. Melanie sent the long version to Pope Pius in 1858, but there was
no response and it was soon classified as "lost." But in 1879 Melanie
gained a Bishop's imprimatur for the Secret, meaning it would be
protected from being placed on the Forbidden Index. And it was at
this point that she showed a copy to Pope Leo XIII in Rome. He took
an interest in it, but soon all commentaries on it were placed on the
Forbidden Index.

Q.21 Was this because of what the Secret says about what will
happen to the Church?

A. Yes. The wording with the Index entries shows this. But it was
the commentaries that the Church placed on the index.

Here is how what is shown in The Apocalypse corresponds with the
warning in The Secret of La Salette:

In The Apocalypse, St John writes of “the Lamb” opening the fourth
seal and of the fourth horse and horseman of The Apocalypse; the
pale green horse, as follows:

And when he opened the fourth seal, I heard the
voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come! ”
And I saw, and behold, a pale green horse, and
he who was sitting on it — his name is Death,
and hell was following him....(Apoc; 6:7-8)

Traditional Catholic commmentary on the fourth horseman is
as follows:

Ver.8. Pale-green horse, i.e., olive-coloured; this horseman
symbolizes death, or rather pestilence...(commentary: Holy
Family Bible 1950.)

It is what is “following him” that is shown in the Apocalypse;
chapters eight and nine, and shown in paragraphs 11 and 12
of The Secret of La Salette.

Chapter nine of the Apocalypse begins with St John writing:

And the fifth angel sounded the trumpet, and I
saw that a star had fallen from heaven upon the
earth, and there was given to him the key of the
bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit,
and there came up smoke out of the pit like the
smoke of a great furness, and the sun and the air
were darkened by the smoke of the pit. And out of
the smoke there came forth locusts upon the earth...
(Apoc. 9:1-3.)

The release of the Locusts thus follows from the Abyss being
opened by the fallen star. And just as the fallen star must be
an individual; ie a living intelligent being (to have been given
the key to open the bottomless pit with) so too the locusts are
those whom live in the Abyss (to be released from) and from
out of which they come. Locusts (the creature/insect) do not
[as such] live in the Abyss, demons do (as do imprisoned
human souls.)

Locusts are a descriptive term. Just as 'serpent' or 'snake' is
the descriptive term used for Lucifer; the devil, in the garden
of Eden. “Locusts upon the earth” means demons in incarnate;
human form. And voluminous. And swarming.

The Secret of La Salette (secret, as disclosed, in 1858)
paragraphs 11 and 12 are:

"In the year 1864, Lucifer with a great number of demons will be
unleashed from hell; they will abolish the faith little by little and
even in persons consecrated to God; they will blind them in such
a way that barring a particular grace these persons will take on
the spirit of these bad angels: several religious houses will lose
the faith entirely and will lose many souls.. "[Secret:(11)]

The dead and the just will be made to revive [Secret:12]
[That is to say that these dead will take the appearance of just
souls who had lived on earth, in order to lead men further astray:
these so-called resurrected dead, who will be nothing other than
the demon under these appearances, will preach another Gospel
contrary to the one of the true Christ Jesus, denying the existence
of heaven, or they may also be the souls of the damned. All these
souls will appear as if united to their bodies.]

These words [in brackets] [and said to have been made known slightly
later by Melanie] are stated by her to have been according to the
vision she had whilst hearing the words "the resurrection of the dead."
[Le Secret De Melanie p 29-30.]

Note that it is very significant that Melanie included her explanation of
the vision that she saw during the apparition (para 11) It is accurate!

There is also chapter 20 of The Apocalypse, as follows:

ch 20 tells us:

And when the thousand years are finished, Satan will be
released from his prison, and will go forth and deceive the
nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and
Magog, and will gather them together for the battle; the
number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went
up over the breadth of the earth and encompassed the
camp of the saints, and the beloved city....[Apoc. 20:7-8]

And indeed the last chastisement upon mankind; the incarnate demons
swarming as "locusts" is a severe one. They have become as a flood. At Our
Lord's Second Coming, and when we will be rid of them, there will be much
vast and sparse land! And very many will wonder where those whom they
have long known have gone.

And of course humans must look to be prepared properly for Our Lord's
Second Coming.

Q.22 Do you think that Pope Leo XIII and his successors recognized
anything to do with the Secret in the context of the Apocalypse?

A. It is difficult to know the extent of what they knew and/or accepted.
The difficulty for the popes would have been in knowing how to deal
with it since, in acknowledging it, and making it known - in the context
of the Secret - it would inevitably mean all emphasis was on what would
happen to the Church. But as mentioned, in rejecting the commentaries on the Secret,
they silenced the connection to the Apocalypse (chapters 8&9) and Apocalypse
chapter 20:7-8 as well. And, in turn, that these are the very last times of the
world as we know it.

The final chastisement is not upon the Church Herself (as though exclusively)
it is upon mankind. But it affects the Church and the Church needed to protect
Herself, and mankind, as far as possible, by alerting to what was happening.
What was needed was a focus in the Church on the Trust and confidence in
the Church that Our Lord said that He would be with His Church all through
the days ".... even to the consummation of the world." (Matt 28:19-20)

But the popes obviously did the best that they could according to what they
understood in the whole context of the Secret. These were very complex and
difficult circumstances for them.

But what is clear is that as they increasingly tried to protect the Church, it
was as though they knew and yet did not know.

Q.23 And so this was all a crucial time for Church and mankind.

A. Yes, very much so, to say the very least !

And Pope Leo XIII himself had a vision in 1884. There is no doubt
that he had a vision, it took place in front of witnesses who reported
as to how the Pope stood motionlessly, as his colour changed rapidly.
It is said that it was that very same morning that he wrote his prayer
to St Michael and ordered it to be said at the end of all low masses
throughout the world. He followed this with further prayers to St Michael,
all richly indulged.

It was reported a while later that Pope Leo had seen in his vision demons
descending upon Rome.

Pope Leo's well known and great prayer to St Michael is...

Holy Michael the Archangel, defend us in the day of battle, be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God, thrust down to hell Satan and all evil spirits who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen. Pope Leo XIII
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